See, yes, I agree that people who WANT an epidural should be allowed to have one, and yes, medical aid should be available if it's needed (as it should be for anything, really), but that's COMPLETELY different to the enforced treatment of EVERY birth as a scary and unnatural thing, which is what we were talking about.
Re: apologies? I learn stuff. That's good.
* pokes you for setting up straw men *