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Mat Bowles ([personal profile] matgb) wrote2008-12-18 12:09 am

Run Windows Update. NOW.

Seriously, there's a major security hole in Internet Explorer that also opens up vulnerabilities in other browsers. Even if you rarely if ever use IE, you need to secure your system if you're running Windows. If you don't know how to, Yahoo! Tech has a handy guide. It's fairly major, several popular websites have been hijacked, one well known webcomic artist got infected while looking at his own comic. MS normally only patch at scheduled times, for them to rush something out this quickly is almost unheard of:
Acting with record speed, Microsoft has issued a patch for the just-announced security flaw that impacts all recent versions of Internet Explorer, from version 5 to the latest betas of IE 8. The next security update had not been due from the company until January 13, making this a very rare occurrence.
Most scary? Up until now, I had thought Opera was a pretty good browser, it's certainly nice to use. It appears though that Opera was subject to the same vulnerabilities as it uses the same XML renderer memory buffer as IE. No, I don't really understand that bit either. So Opera gets downgraded.

If you're still using Internet Explorer for your browsing, really, it's NOT SAFE. No browser is completely secure, but IE is part of the core operating system of Windows, and when there are unpatched exploits, the attack can get directly into Windows itself. By far the safest way to browse[1] is with Firefox, and it's probably tied after that between Apple's Safari and Google's Chrome. Opera remains a groundbreaking bit of software, but if the default behaviour is still to pretend to be IE and also open up vulnerabilities regardless, it isn't as good as it should be.

For the full security shield, Firefox has plugins such as Flashblock, Adblock and NoScript that really do push it to the top. At the very least, Flashblock stops system hogging flash from hijacking your browsing unless you want it to, it's the first thing I install after Fx on a new machine. Always.

Another part of this vulnerability involved Adobe's Acrobat Reader. PDFs are, unfortunately, now a part of life, and there are still many many idiots that put their PDFs online and think they've got a decent web presence. Given this, the PDF download plugin for Firefox is essential, and switching to a much faster and less system intensive reader (I use Foxit) for your default PDF setup is probably a good plan as well.
[1] I'm ignoring text only and other lite browsers such as Lynx here, just talking about normal, standard plays YouTube vids and looks normal browsers.

[identity profile] js84.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
(From BBC website article)

Said [third-party security advisor] Mr Ferguson: "If users can find an alternative browser, then that's good mitigation against the threat."

But Microsoft counselled against taking such action.

"I cannot recommend people switch due to this one flaw," said John Curran, head of Microsoft UK's Windows group.


What about all the other flaws?



and what's the vulnerability that affects PDF files?
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[personal profile] fearmeforiampink 2008-12-18 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know the details, but in terms of identifying as stuff, generally Opera is set up to default identify as Opera, but can be set to identify as IE.

[identity profile] fridgemagnet.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what you mean about Opera; iirc Opera does have a "use IE to view this page" option, but there are Firefox modules that do the same and neither are at all common except with web developers.

[identity profile] fridgemagnet.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense. I'm quite surprised that Opera does that actually, but in this instance it was unwise.

The thing is of course that while in this instance Opera trusted Windows not to be vulnerable to buffer overflow attacks when it was, there's nothing to say that Firefox or Chrome or whatever other browser isn't also trusting some other Windows service which is vulnerable.

Unfortunately you sort of _have_ to trust some of the services of the OS you're running on, and while some companies trust very few of them (Opera for instance does a whole load of stuff on its own, which is why it looks slightly odd and I was surprised to see this) they're all going to trust a few. In this instance Opera is vulnerable and other browsers which don't use that service aren't, but that's not indicative of some sort of long-term issue with Opera IMO.

[identity profile] tiredstars.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Someday my office may upgrade from IE6. :/

[identity profile] tiredstars.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Strangely, most of the headings in the side-frame on the windows update page appear to be in Korean at the moment.

[identity profile] paulgregory.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
if the default behaviour is to pretend to be IE and open up vulnerabilities
That's slightly misleading. The pretend-to-be is user-adjustable but it's mainly useragent stuff and possibly some box-model interpretation. From what I understand, the vulnerabilities from XML rendering are not due to "default behaviour" in the same sense; I doubt there is another XML rendering option. (I may be wrong, I don't touch desktop Opera).

[identity profile] requiem2adream.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
... I don't think I have ever been so happy that I made the Switch to Mac and Firefox *snuggles my baby*

[identity profile] requiem2adream.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
...

Laurens happy protective bubble of Mac security: *is burst*


The more people start using Macs, the more likely the crackers are to try and get you.


I appreciated that when I brought my baby. Obviously now more people are getting them the chances of security breaches will be higher.
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[identity profile] mapp.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
"Mozilla hastily shoves Firefox updates out door," reported The Register on Wednesday.

"Mozilla Security Advisories for 3.0," with notes for 3.0.5 that suggest it's addressing the same problems that MS and Opera were having (pesky remote code execution!).
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[identity profile] mapp.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
My point is that it's not something that only has effected Opera and IE, but the much loved Firefox as well.

[identity profile] 0ct0pus.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
Basically update the browser you are using - and any other browsers you have on your machine. Which is quite a job for some of us. The fuss with MSIE has been because they have taken so long getting an update up, and because most IE users don't do browser updates. Oddly IE6 users are occassionally pushed to update to IE7 via a redirect on start up... wonder if they could have used a similar mechanism for this.

Opera is still a brilliant browser btw (fanboy!!)
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[personal profile] djm4 2008-12-18 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you sure Firefox *doesn't* use IE infrastructure? They've introduced a very similar patch today, and I see no reason why they'd wouldn't do exactly the same thing Opera does w.r.t. XML.

Ditto Google Chrome, which also released a patch today. It certainly *could* be coincidence, but until I see something telling me that Firefox hasn't done exactly what Opera did, I'm suspecting that as the most likely explanation.

Relying on the OS for one's core functions isn't exactly unusual.
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[identity profile] mapp.livejournal.com 2008-12-19 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
Mozilla Security Advisories for 3.0.5 suggest that the 3.0.5 update fixes the problem (in other words, it's not Opera/IE only)
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[identity profile] el-staplador.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
Done! (I use Firefox almost all the time, but IE is Still There, so I'm patching to be on the safe side.)

I don't really care what happens at work. Considering how long it took me to show my manager how to make a text box in Excel yesterday, and considering that I won't be there after Christmas, it doesn't seem worth it.
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[identity profile] purple-pen.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, thanks for the Foxit link! I have long despised PDFs, but having just downloaded Foxit and given it a go, I think I may learn to get over that now.

[identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
PDFs have been a part of life as a scientist for a very, very long time. Everybody uses them, and its the standard way to distribute your paper online or by email.

[identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, thats a bloody silly way of doing things. Most of my experience with PDFs is in science publications where you get a webpage with the abstract on it, and then links to download the full document. I'd assumed that was how most people used PDFs. Y'know. Sensibly. *sigh*

JSTOR while having masses of lovely references generally presents each page as a JPEG. Which is deeply irritating, as I have to print or load each page individually. What's the bloody point of that?

[identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
PDF reports without an abstract? Makes no sense to me, but then I've got a science background. Abstracts are second nature to me.

Much of JSTOR is behind an academic paywall anyway, so you have access from your institution. Checking a journal at random ("Avian Diseases" as it happens) there's a link to download a PDF too. Which makes the JPEG bit even odder. I suppose it makes online reading easier, but still...

[identity profile] misscoollinda.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the tip. I forwarded the yahoo link to our IT chief, but he tends to be a putz and will likely ignore it.

[identity profile] staceyuk.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks. I don't use IE but have it anyway cos I'm running Vista! I miss XP! UAC drives me a little bonkers! You can switch it off but get a security warning every time you boot up. Bleh.