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Quickie, aimed specifically at two people[1] but of general interest to all who value decent science education, [livejournal.com profile] nannyo excellent post about her encounter with the people that run the Noah’s Ark Zoo Farm. I am very scared that that place exisits within the UK. On a similar vein, those that haven't seen it should probably read Scalzi's report of his visit to the Creation Museum. Does anyone have any brain bleach?

Heh: I do like this from the comments at Scalzi's report though:
Galatians 4:24
These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants.
So, um, the bible, if literally true, is literally a metaphor according to St Paul?

ETA: [livejournal.com profile] innerbrat has put on her day job hat and got into contact with them, removing the bit that she studies evolutionary morphology from her NHM email sigline. Go Debi!
[1] [livejournal.com profile] innerbrat and [livejournal.com profile] davegodfrey based on their regular postings on such topics.
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 01:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] susanne-est-moi.livejournal.com
Oh dear. Reminds me of one of my (insane) best friends here, who likes to point out the loopholes in evolutionary theory. That's not to say that he believes all of THAT nonsense...but he's certainly skeptical of just accepting without question all the evolution stuff we learn in high school.

Ah well. I suppose we can't all be sane, right? Diversity is the spice of life! (ha.)
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 06:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrell.livejournal.com
Loved the lolcats thread from the Scalzi visit :)
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 08:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thapunkprincess.livejournal.com
I wish there were more creationists about. Just not Christian ones.
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 08:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackthomas.livejournal.com
I just finished reading a great book called The Unauthorised Version - Truth and Fiction in the Bible. Although I have been an atheist for quite a long time now, it was still a fascinating read, and one of the best books on the subject of the Bibles origins I think I have read. Should probably be required reading for anyone who wants to ever argue with fundies.

In brief it is a historians view of the bible - what source documents do we have, how do they differ. How do the histories compare to other documents from the period(s).

Some of my favourite bits are that at the time Joshua was supposed to bring down the walls of Jericho, except at the time it was supposed to happen Jericho was a small farming village.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Truth-Fiction-Bible-Unauthorised-Version/dp/0679744061/
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 08:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginasketch.livejournal.com
Imagine, if you will, a load of horseshit. And we’re not talking just your average load of horseshit; no, we’re talking colossal load of horsehit. An epic load of horseshit. The kind of load of horseshit that has accreted over decades and has developed its own sort of ecosystem,

see people, even SHIT evolves. LEARN IT.
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 11:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silentgreeneyes.livejournal.com
How odd you post this the day after I get another email from my dad.. which includes links to his online presence..
I'll be posting said links soon..
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 12:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrell.livejournal.com
Just read the Scalzi piece. Very awesome. Must buy all his books immediately.
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 15:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raven-oreilly.livejournal.com
My favorite Creation Museum picture is the placard with an answer about why there aren't any dino bones found with human ones:

[paraphrased]"Because they simply weren't buried together!" Tah-dah!
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 19:24 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] el-staplador.livejournal.com
Aha. Saint Paul, you see, knew a metaphor when he saw one. Not that he didn't get a fair amount of other stuff wrong (IMO), or at least failed to consider how what was right when he wrote it would be interpreted two thousand odd years later...
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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 20:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
* gets the warm fuzzies over the people conversing above *

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Date: 2007-Nov-29, Thursday 21:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
Nothing I can see on the Noah's Ark Zoo Farm website you link to indicate anything amiss. Off to check [livejournal.com profile] nannyo's post...

Fascinating. From the website, it looks like a great zoo - a good place to visit. From the post, it looks like the opposite.

I've gone back to the Zoo website. I really can't see anything that is the least influence by creationism, or any belief or faith at all...

Because as [livejournal.com profile] nannyo points out, you have to get way, way deep into the site to find it.

Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.

Thanks for posting!

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