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Date: 2008-Aug-21, Thursday 23:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Granny Weatherwax is a bloke, and Nanny Ogg is an over the hill immoral trollop? I think SOMEONE is accepting patriarchal definitions of what it means to be male and female rather too readily, myself.
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Date: 2008-Aug-21, Thursday 23:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Yes, she thinks it's a bad thing. For someone who thinks sexless women are bad, she's awfully judgemental about women who have sex.
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Date: 2008-Aug-21, Thursday 23:45 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gominokouhai
It's not exactly accepting patriarchal definitions, it's arbitrarily selecting patriarchal definitions in order to reach a preconceived conclusion. And thus it's very postmodernist, deconstructionalist, self-indulgent and pretentious---just as I'd expect of a Master's thesis---but it's got almost bugger-all to do with feminism.

Who, exactly, is the one missing the point of feminism when Pratchett writes strong female characters, and then some other twit redefines them as masculine according to a set of criteria they've just made up? Because if they're strong characters, they have to be masculine?

Who is the one asserting that for a person to possess power, that person must be a man? It's not Pratchett.

And worse, in my opinion: there's no point to it. Let's enjoy the books and share them with each other. We can deconstruct all we like once the poor guy's dead.
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Date: 2008-Aug-22, Friday 00:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Indeed. What you said.
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Date: 2008-Aug-22, Friday 01:20 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gominokouhai
Did we just agree on something to do with feminism? First time for everything.

OP: Thanks, Mat, for the excellent linkspam---still working through it, but there's a lot of fascinating stuff here.
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Date: 2008-Aug-22, Friday 01:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Yes. You may now refer to yourself as Mr Stopped Clock... ;)
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Date: 2008-Aug-22, Friday 07:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrell.livejournal.com
Who is the one asserting that for a person to possess power, that person must be a man? It's not Pratchett.

In fact he specifically shows the opposite, and often.

Given that several Pratchett female characters are based on real people I know, have met, or have heard of, I don't think they're secretly men.
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Date: 2008-Aug-22, Friday 10:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninebelow.livejournal.com
azurelunatic: Friending!

Hmm, was that really necessary?
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Date: 2008-Aug-22, Friday 12:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninebelow.livejournal.com
I believe it is what MetaFilter would call over thinking a plate of beans. Friending is not "horribly complex... on a social level" unless you make it so.

And I don't see that it is a study of netiquette so much as just an exhaustive accumulation of netiquette.
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Date: 2008-Aug-22, Friday 12:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
* makes you a present of this shiny new icon for your shiny new extra userpic allowance *

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