Coalitions, negotiations and party democracy
2010-May-10, Monday 20:30I'm running out of popcorn, wonder how good the final deal will be? Anyway, for those worried that the Lib Dems might "sell out" or whatever, a brief guide to internal party democracy:
Liberal Conspiracy » Liberal Democrats: the clue is in the name
Not sure why so many reformers seem to think that the membership would let Clegg take his pieces of silver, he sure as hell knows he couldn't get away with it.
Note to any Tory inclined readers; your manifesto includes a desire to improve democracy, extend referenda on issues, etc. So what's wrong with the idea of asking the voters how they want to elect Parliament? If you think reform would be so bad, surely you can win the argument in a referendum? What are you scared of?
Anyway, normal service may or may not resume ar some point, but, y'know, most interesting part of an election is always the aftermath, and we might end up getting exactly what I joined the party to campaign for, so I'm talking about that.
Liberal Conspiracy » Liberal Democrats: the clue is in the name
Not sure why so many reformers seem to think that the membership would let Clegg take his pieces of silver, he sure as hell knows he couldn't get away with it.
Note to any Tory inclined readers; your manifesto includes a desire to improve democracy, extend referenda on issues, etc. So what's wrong with the idea of asking the voters how they want to elect Parliament? If you think reform would be so bad, surely you can win the argument in a referendum? What are you scared of?
Anyway, normal service may or may not resume ar some point, but, y'know, most interesting part of an election is always the aftermath, and we might end up getting exactly what I joined the party to campaign for, so I'm talking about that.
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Date: 2010-May-10, Monday 20:43 (UTC)One, a fair proportion of the reformers won't know that.
Two, people want to push their own particular bits – if the Tories offered Clegg a deal that was solid gold from a Lib Dem policy point of view, on everything except electoral reform, he might well take it. And certainly people would think he might well take it. Thus, people are wanting to say "This is what is important to us."
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Date: 2010-May-10, Monday 20:48 (UTC)The leadership of Vote For a Change sure as hell know it, and have been told repeatedly. Their attempt to persuade supporters to swamp the undermanned and underresoured Cowley St phone lines today was despicable; they either know it was the wrong thing to do, or are completely incompetent.
Either way, they're tilting at the wrong targets; the stumbling blocks are anti-reformers in both bigger parties.
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Date: 2010-May-11, Tuesday 03:02 (UTC)You don't mean to say Twitter isn't helping the political process? Are you allowed to say that? :-o
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Date: 2010-May-11, Tuesday 08:36 (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-May-10, Monday 20:18 (UTC)Any ideas why?
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Date: 2010-May-10, Monday 20:39 (UTC)It's a Wordpress install, may've got a security flaw, they sometimes do.
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Date: 2010-May-10, Monday 21:16 (UTC)