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Right then, last year, you lot voted that Best Xmas song lyric ever is:
You scumbag, you maggot You cheap lousy faggot
Well, this morning, BBC Radio 1 decided this was offensive to some listeners but then later on in the day saw sense and backed down. I agree with [livejournal.com profile] pickwick, it's a damn shame that the BBC manages to tie itself into hoops as often as it does. Naturally, someone disagrees, and [livejournal.com profile] bagrec doesn't like the song and suggests alternatives. But he's a freaky morris dancing types so you don't want to listen to him ;-)

Elsewhere, it's the Arsehole of the year grand final over at [livejournal.com profile] publicansdecoy's place, and [livejournal.com profile] hullfire already covered the other main stories of the day:
So, Nick Clegg is the new Lib Dem leader and in a monstrous piece of stupidity the Government has lost more of our stuff, but in really important news, RODENTS OF UNUSUAL SIZE ACTUALLY EXIST!
I do have to say I do share some of Jennie's concerns about the potential of Clegg's leadership but I'm nowhere near as cynical about it. He has at least hit the ground running, complete with YouTube appearance filmed on cheapskate handheld already. Although the town meeting idea does sound like it might have some legs.

What, you expected analysis? Don't be silly, I've been reading stuff about it all day, besides, I didn't end up voting, I couldn't make a decision between the two of them, they're both nice blokes. We'll be fine. Right? Someone tell me we'll be fine. Damnit, they need to do better, else the damn country's doomed FFS, that's why I joined them...

Calm. Now I tag this entry. Um, is there a limit to how many you can use? Appears not. Oh, wait, I forgot a link. Be very glad she's going to be a Doctor of paleontology not medical stuff, medical doctors play with gadgets much more scary than microwaves.

Date: 2007-12-19 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
the town meeting idea does sound like it might have some legs.

Yeah, I commented on that on Charlotte's blog too. Said it was as good an idea now as it was when John Major did it. This was taken as an attack... Clearly I need to stop assuming my views on everything are well known.

I'm glad you're less cynical than me. I don't think the world could take the weight of such cynicism in two people.

* clings to the positive *

Still, I get my new laptop tomorrow!

Date: 2007-12-19 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insomnia.livejournal.com
The BBC and/or The Pogues should consider taking the original version of the song and editing in audio from this version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmrUkB6UElY) performed on Top of the Pops by Shane and Kirsty back in 1992, which uses the lyrics "you're cheap and you're haggard" instead of the offending line.

(These are the same lyrics that Maire Brennan used herself a few years back.)

I love the song as originally recorded, but frankly, some people really don't want to hear "cheap lousy faggot" on their Christmas radio, much less have their kids sing along to it or think it's okay for them to call others that name.

Date: 2007-12-19 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
What's wrong with being a tasty porky treat?

Date: 2007-12-19 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mdmnmdllr.livejournal.com
"In the US, I get that it might not go across so well ..."

Heh. Um, yeah ... not well at all. Same goes for the right proper term (in the Kingdom, anyway) that is 'fag'.

Utter either of them in here in the States and it's a solid way to earn the 'bigot' term for oneself.

They'll suspect you even if you use it in the right context, too.

(If, by that, you take me to mean that I believe the politically correct set is run amok here in the States, you are correct, sir! As BtC would say - ACK thpbpht!!!)

Date: 2007-12-19 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mdmnmdllr.livejournal.com
Quick dirty answer: It's almost impossible to sort them out. That - of course - is why it's so crazy. Compound it with the set who like to use words normally considered bigoted vulgarities on and to each other ('nigger', anyone?).

Confusion is the rule.

And - since we're near to the topic - let's not get into when I try to actually (gasp) use the word 'niggardly'. It's as good as my rhetorical life when I do, sometimes even when I'm writing in a sympathetic forum. >rolleyes< Stupid, stupid, stupid ... I HATE it when MY language must be stilted by the biases and ignorances of fools - and that is every single day.

Somehow, I think you know what I mean.

Date: 2007-12-19 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bagrec.livejournal.com
Oy! I never said I don't like the song! I thought I made it clear that I do, very much. I'm just bored with it continually being hailed as the G"reatest Christmas Record Ever". I don't think it is, that's all...and I think this is a piece of received wisdom that needs challenging....

Date: 2007-12-19 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bagrec.livejournal.com
My rejoinder was not entirely serious either Mat!
innerbrat: (drama)

Date: 2007-12-19 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] innerbrat
Shut up.

Date: 2007-12-19 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caramel-betty.livejournal.com
I do have to say I do share some of Jennie's concerns about the potential of Clegg's leadership but I'm nowhere near as cynical about it.

I'm largely happy about it all, though I was probably only slightly more certain in my mind of who to vote for than the Lib Dem electorate apparently were. (I voted Clegg in the end.)

What I am slightly cynical about is whether the hardcore "Give me Huhne or give me death" fans will let Clegg lead, or spend every waking hour sucking in air through their teeth whenever he makes a mistake (as he inevitably will). With luck, the Parliamentary (including Lords, MEPs, MSPs, AMs etc.) Huhne fans won't do that, which should cover up the worst of any of that.

It would also be good, in my mind, if Huhne and Cable were both appointed to high profile roles, and were actively involved in debating policy with Clegg away from the watchful eye of cameras. In particular, I think Clegg (and, indeed, anyone) would be foolish not to use Cable for PMQs prep. Eye-catching but with substance.

Date: 2007-12-20 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caramel-betty.livejournal.com
I've heard on good authority that some of the summer briefing was coming form highups in the Huhne camp, but then I know some of it was coming from the Clegg camp, so there are idiots on both sides.

Absolutely. On balance, it does feel like there were a few more vocal Huhne fans who wouldn't be happy with Clegg than there were the other way round - but given that Clegg was the favourite to win, it's likely that the Clegg fans who wouldn't be happy with Huhne didn't feel the need to grumble quite so much in public to whip up support.
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